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February 16, 2015

more thoughts on JAM's first for the year

The fuss over David Tennant's first in speaking for 60 minutes without interruption continues. On Saturday morning, Radio Four's popular Today programme devoted five minutes to this with Nicholas Parsons interviewed. He declared the first ever JAM to be a "disaster"! It seems to get worse every time he mentions it.

The Today programme also called Nicholas "Sir Nicholas", a mistake he didn't correct (Parsons has not been knighted). Their webpage also mis-spelled his name as "Nicolas" although I see that has now been corrected... though the knighthood remains.

I have sent an email to some of the news outlets who have made the mistake about Tennant's first, and have yet to receive a reply or see the error corrected. In a way this is understandable as most reporters will not want to spend their valuable time trying to work out whether I'm right or not, especially when they have Nicholas's word. As I say I CAN understand that, as a journalist myself. But still, it is a bit disappointing that this incorrect "fact" continues to be repeated, and that the off-the-cuff recollection of a man who is after all in his 90s is all it takes for this meme to take off.

Nicholas, as much as I love him, is not totally reliable when declaring historical firsts.

I was at a recording in 2007 when Clement Freud and Gyles Brandreth were both on the panel. At one point Nicholas declared the show "to be the first time we have had two former MPs on a show together". Clement immediately snorted and said, rather grumpily, "Gyles and I have been together on this programme at least a dozen times". Which was rather percipient of him, as Kenneth Williams might have said, as they had appeared on 13 programmes together at that point (though the first four were before either was a "former MP". Graham Norton also pointed out it was the second show recorded that night anyway, so couldn't possibly be the first.

But perhaps my favourite Nicholas mistake came in 1976 when in introducing Thora Hird, he declared her to have been a great success when she was on the programme last year. Thora immediately interjected that she had never been on the show before so can't have been a great success, adding "but I'm sure if I had been on, I would have been a success".

I'd also note that in his Daily Mail article he singled out Pam Ayres as being slow to pick up the way of speaking in the game, although she went the full 60 in her debut radio appearance and her second TV appearance!

I am not, I hope, coming across, as being too hard on Nicholas. We all make mistakes. I make them all the time. Lots of them. With Nicholas, it's a symptom of him getting excited about the programme which isn't at all a bad thing.

I think though that it has brought up a couple of thoughts that interest me.

The first is that Just A Minute is really treasured by a lot of people. Try doing a Twitter search in the past week on #justaminute and you'll see what I mean. People still love the programme after almost 50 years. A lot of people. That's why the media is using this achievement as an excuse to talk about Just A Minute.

And people loved that particular show. When I listen to a show for the first time these days, I am taking down details of subjects, and who is talking. Sometimes concentrating on that, you lose touch with the actual quality of the show. My first reaction was that, given the stellar cast, it was slightly disappointing. But that hasn't been the reaction of many many others who found the show a delight. It's hard to go past a panel with such names as Paul Merton, Stephen Fry, David Tennant and Julian Clary, I guess.

And finally perhaps, to give Tennant's achievement some perspective. It's pretty clear that in the 70s and 80s, the policy of the regulars was to allow a newcomer some latitude to get going and get into the rhythm of JAM-speak, even if they were pausing a little, or repeating the odd word. Sometimes players were allowed more than a little latitude and allowed to keep going until, or past, the point of collapse. I mentioned in my earlier post, for example, that Stanley Unwin was one of those who had achieved Tennant's feat. But look at how he did it on the subject of "communication"....

Oh! Well! The early communication of course was the tom-tom which is a wonderful form of communication between the natives of the various continents of the world. But um of the so-called civilised world I think er the er early digital, early digital communication was the morse code. Dit-dit-dee-dah-dee-dah and so on. Ah then after that ah we had um.... we had er oral communication. Now the trouble is that I find is that er our wonderful, our wonderful language which very few of us bother to speak properly, ah you might.... but um... there's always a first time on a programme you know! But deep folly! Communication ah I, I found one day that the chap wasn't listening to what I was trying to express... 

Actually hearing it is even worse with very very long pauses. Still it's good fun and if you are interested, you can also hear it on YouTube

 There are others like this, of which Fenella Fielding is perhaps the most notable example. Joan Turner is engulfed in hysterical laughter before the whistle goes, while Kenny Everett also collapses a bit well before the full 60 seconds are up.

 So Tennant's achievement is a lot better than Stanley Unwin's. I very much doubt that Paul, Stephen and Julian put down their buzzers. It's been pointed out Tennant did repeat the word "stage", but it's the sort of mistake that can easily be missed.

What this whole incident shows is how much people CARE about Just A Minute. That's a good sign for the show continuing for a long time yet.

9 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi dean are you aware that the junior just a minutes series 2 are currently being broadcast

11:33 am  
Blogger Dean said...

yes! will update the website in the next few hours

3:32 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you want I can fill you in on some of the information on Junior jam series 2. Episode 3 featured Oliver with Jenny and sarH with Josie. Episode 4 featured lot tie with Jenny and Arun with Josie. Subjects were things of which I'm scared, learning to swim, the worst thing I have ever eaten, catching a cold, reasons to be cheerful, where I would go if I owned the tardis, looking in the mirror and the last thing I bought. The ep 3 winner was Sarah and Josie and the ep 4 winner was Arun and Josie. Hope you find this useful dean

1:10 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

Hi dean are you aware that the junior just a minutes series 2 are currently being broadcast"

Where can I hear the new JJAM episodes? I've searched online and can't find info on them any where.


Thanks

11:28 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you go onto iPlayer radio and search the 4 o clock show and search for clips, Junior Just a minute will be their. For deans information, Arun( who was one of the JJAM series 2) surname is Uttamchandani. It's the same length as Hesketh Harvey!

11:50 am  
Blogger Dean said...

thanks!

11:51 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello Dean, Two more dates for the next series of JUST A MINUTE - one for the 10th and the other for the 17th March. Both being recorded at the Radio Theatre, Broadcasting House. No info on who's in it but as soon as I can I will let you know. Hope all is well. TAke care KEITH X

11:30 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello Dean and fellow Jammers!
At tonight's recording the panel will be Paul, Marcus and two lady panelists who have never been on JAM on the same panel. Now who could that be ? Get your thinking caps working! All will be revealed after the shows are recorded. Best wishes to you all. KEITH XXXX

4:36 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maureen Lipman and Sue Perkins would be a good panel

12:32 am  

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